Apr 16, 2013 4:00pm PDT
this hour with nbc justice correspondent pete williams and former cia counterterrorism director larry johnson. two best guests we could have. pete, let's go back to that picture we just saw from whdh up there, boston affiliate of nbc. what are the experts making of the fact that it was there, that bag, whatever it is sitting there before the explosion and then in this picture taken afterwards you can see the smoke trailing up to the left there diagona diagonally? what does that tell us? >> it tells us it's something they're investigating, chris. they know, they believe very strongly that the bombs were brought to the scene in backpacks. but i think it's fair to say they're looking at whether after they got there, they put them in these shopping bags. now, that thing next to the -- to the bag that's just on the edge of the little spot shot circle there, that is a trash receptacle. could it be? it's a question. could it be the devices were placed in these trash bags next to trash receptacles to look inconspicuous? it's something that they're -- that they're studying and something that i
Apr 17, 2013 7:00am PDT
public. let's get to the latest with pete williams. i want to start with the two photos, the before and after of a bag next to a mailbox. how important are investigators thinking these could be? >> to be determined, i think. they are looking at this picture and similar pictures to see if that's how the bombs were placed. they're sort of contradictory photo evidence here about whether that's where they went because the after doesn't seem to show a lot of damage, but it's quite clear that the bombs themselves were not busted up into little tiny pieces and the pictures we're seeing show some large pictures of the cook er themselves. let me show you right here, you can see the brand name. inok. of one of the pressure cookers and on the pictures that show the batteries, this is a chinese made battery and these are also wires that were made in china. now, that kind of lead is very important because what they'll do now is to figure out who sells these pressure cooker, where would they have been bought. were they sold in the boston area? what about the wire? are there commonalities? where w
Apr 17, 2013 2:00pm PDT
, a federal -- a lot of other networks are doing this. luckily we have pete william here to guard the truth and make sure we get it right. but other networks without pointing to anybody, they have had the problem, federal officials, i'm looking through all the clips. maybe just one, maybe a very busy federal official has been running around today telling news people and major networks and wire services, hey, look, they made an arrest. how did that happen, clint? who is this person that says i know they did. hard fact. >> number one, yeah, it shouldn't have happened. we don't know who it was. but, look, when you get that many agencies involved, somebody's looking to make points. unfortunately, the points they make could compromise an investigation. but when you have upwards of 60 different agencies involved in a case like this, loose lips can sink a case. >> you think it's possible there has been someone as you say in pocket or what's the -- do you think this person has been narrowed down to? do they have the person in a case or they have them in some sort of contained circumstance they can'
Apr 18, 2013 2:00pm PDT
. >> governor, the question now we have on the record now, thanks to pete williams, we have the fact two men seen carrying heavy bags near the site of the bombings. if this comes into vision now, pictures we've been looking at on the internet of people actually putting bombs down and leaving, they're more to the civilian eye than just people of interest. they look like they're the guys. that's the way people are going to look at it. the civil liberties aspect to this, if you put a picture out of a person saying, pretty much we think these people are involved, somehow, perpetrators, and somebody shoots them or chases them down, something, an accident happened, for example, the government is taking responsibility for this once they put the pictures out. >> i think they are. they have to. at the end of the day, there comes a point in time where obviously they could not identify these individuals with all the other potential pieces of information they had. so do they eat their lunch at a particular place? rent an apartment? do they socialize with a particular group? frankly it says to me they di